tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post6702930126518708294..comments2023-05-01T03:32:27.762-07:00Comments on Cycloculture: Product Review – Shimano Nexus “Red Band” 8-Speed HubForbes Blackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15206726185164505164noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-71279147509406114172010-08-28T16:48:40.728-07:002010-08-28T16:48:40.728-07:00Thanks for this post, nicely done.
I recently bou...Thanks for this post, nicely done.<br /><br />I recently bought a trike with an eight speed Nexus. The manufacturer specs it with a Strumey Archer 8 speed hub, which has a larger range of gears. I wanted to add a Schlumpf High Speed Drive up front to give the trike 16 rather than 8 speeds. With the HSD 2 speed crank my trike has a wider range of gears than my 27 speed two-wheeled 'bent. All in all I'm quite happy with the Nexus hub. <br /><br />I'm on my way out to change the cog to something a little smaller. Thanks for tip about working the snap ring from the end rather than the middle.DennisTheBaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04897633362635866507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-83507142097166354712010-07-03T18:29:31.711-07:002010-07-03T18:29:31.711-07:00Hi...I bought a Brodie Ocho which has the Shimano ...Hi...I bought a Brodie Ocho which has the Shimano 8-speed setup just over a month ago. I now have about 600 klicks (Canada...eh !) on it. It has performed flawlessly and I am very impressed with it. I got rid of my last 27 speed "mountain" bike because I (a) only rode in the "mountains" about 5% of the time. (b) I didn't NEED 27 speeds. I've only ever used 5 or 6 for 90% of the time. The ratios are pretty good for everyday riding...I still don't have to shift very often. Even though 27 speeds sounds impressive, a lot of those overlap. The Germans are now marketing a 14 speed. twist shift but my bike store says it retails for about $2500 Canadian...which is still over 2 thou US. I would probably get it for very hilly terrain but that's about it. For anyone interested, I would recommend trying out an 8-speed...they're great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-87004656711660430812009-10-10T15:53:35.479-07:002009-10-10T15:53:35.479-07:00The square edged Shimano snap ring for the sprocke...The square edged Shimano snap ring for the sprocket which would go on the Nexus inter 7 ok would not go on the Premium inter 8 without filing a slight bevel on the inside top corner on a section near the start -- the groove for the ring has an upper edge beveled upwards to assist removal but prevents holding the end of the ring down when inserting, so the rest can be worked around. Beveling the ring slightly lets the end stick into the groove better. Done by master mechanics at a shop dealing in the hubs to install one.glnchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13168513860312403179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-24994164477299362972009-09-17T21:05:24.198-07:002009-09-17T21:05:24.198-07:00nice share...keep it up...
regards,
Big Ocean Fis...nice share...keep it up...<br /><br />regards,<br />Big Ocean Fish<br />www.bigoceanfish.comUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16663264136383392559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-75113659343156775862009-07-14T06:40:54.635-07:002009-07-14T06:40:54.635-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.johnjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10377490680741994135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-17165349443237888412008-08-30T02:54:00.000-07:002008-08-30T02:54:00.000-07:00Since July 2006, I have been very happy with my Ne...Since July 2006, I have been very happy with my Nexus 8-speed, retrofitted to my TREK Multritrack with vertical dropouts. I use a chain tensioner, and the thing is flawless.<BR/><BR/>When I lived in Japan, I used the Nexus 4 speed, with equal satisfaction. <BR/><BR/>I am an ex-racer, who is fed up of having to maintain my bike. I just wanna get out there and ride! This thing delivers, and for the last 8 years or so, cycling has been my primary commuting method. The Nexus has enhanced the experience enormously. <BR/><BR/>I hope to never have to go back to derailleurs. Ever.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13989666287962975129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-53682541639598612392008-08-20T09:24:00.000-07:002008-08-20T09:24:00.000-07:00Nice review. Did you consider the SRAM iMotion 9 ...Nice review. Did you consider the SRAM iMotion 9 hub along with the Shimano?<BR/><BR/>As I get into commuting the idea of a internally geared hub with a decent spread in gear ratios is sounding better vs. the triple chainring/9-speed cassette I have now.Cod Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072767666312625683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-59076984895476890092008-07-29T21:33:00.000-07:002008-07-29T21:33:00.000-07:00Patrick: You don't need to take the brake and shi...Patrick: You don't need to take the brake and shifter cables off. There's a little trick to getting the cable off the hub. The cable is attached to the hub at the cassette, where the cable is retained using a clamping nut. You will notice that as you shift, this cassette rotates. There is a little hole in the cassette which accepts a 2 or 2.5 mm (not sure which without looking) allen wrench, or a bicycle spoke. Insert the wrench and rotate the cassette counterclockwise. This will relieve the tension on the cable and you can remove it by wriggling the nut out. Any LBS that works with these hubs knows the trick and can show you how it's done. You'll kick yourself when you find out how easy it is - I did. By the way, your bike is designed for this hub, I believe. On bikes that are not and that have vertical dropouts, it may require a chain tensioner to get proper chain tension. If you use one like the Surly Singleator, it has an arm that tensions the chain like a derailer, and the wheel can be removed like you would remove a wheel in a derailler transmission system by removing the tension, making the chain slack and the wheel removeable.rgonethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08618366706012716015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-71071637529489102362008-07-29T08:11:00.000-07:002008-07-29T08:11:00.000-07:00Good review. I've got one on my Bianchi Milano an...Good review. I've got one on my Bianchi Milano and like it a lot, with two caveats.<BR/><BR/>1) with the brake cables on the left triangle most children's trailers don't work with the hub. Some trailers can be attached via a replacement quick release skewer but it doesn't seem like the market has responded to the hubs, although there's probably a lot of overlap between the groups wanting internal hubs and children's trailers.<BR/><BR/>2) It takes some time getting to learn how to take the rear wheel off by detaching the brake and shifter cables. After my first frustrating try I ended up taking it to my FLBS to have them remove the wheel so I could fix a flat. So it's low maintenance, if you can get it off. I'd recommend all the puncture resistance you can get in that rear tire.Patrick McMahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02897732985757059185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-10200297662621626142008-07-26T13:08:00.000-07:002008-07-26T13:08:00.000-07:00Thanks, loop.Thanks, loop.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13601092971406547119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-69510108622154902882008-07-26T07:33:00.000-07:002008-07-26T07:33:00.000-07:00David: For a very nice overview of the major inte...David: For a very nice overview of the major internal hubs, check out the lead article at http://hubstripping.wordpress.com/. Hubstripping also has a link to a very informative article at http://hubstripping.wordpress.com/internal-gear-hub-review/. If you buy the 8 speed, I'd be interested to hear your comparison of it to the 7 speed. According to the second article I cited, the 7 speed isn't such a bad buy.rgonethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08618366706012716015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-76183808614671103292008-07-25T20:07:00.000-07:002008-07-25T20:07:00.000-07:00Terrific review. I've been thinking about going i...Terrific review. I've been thinking about going internal myself. My wife has an older Nexus 7-spd hub, and I SB indicated that the 8 is a significant improvement.<BR/><BR/>I'm interested in comparisons to the SRAM and S-A products. Is there such an article somewhere?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13601092971406547119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-43694312916494908402008-07-25T18:48:00.000-07:002008-07-25T18:48:00.000-07:00Thanks for the review, Forbes. I have a Nexus Red...Thanks for the review, Forbes. I have a Nexus Red Band and I don't think I want to go back to derailers. I agree with David that if you're obsessed with cadence and equal gearing increments you could be unhappy with the hub. But if you've ridden a single speed or fixie you don't have that mindset and it's a luxury having 8 speeds to choose from. I'm running mine on a Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen with vertical drops and couldn't get the chain tension exactly right for the 48x21 setup I chose, so I installed a Surly Singleator and it works nicely. The chain stays properly tensioned, it interferes with chain travel less than a derailer, and it is less kludgy than a derailer. In my opinion, it does not reduce the efficiency of the drivetrain to a measurable degree, though I admit I have no scientific basis for that assertion.rgonethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08618366706012716015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-74516086149219572502008-07-25T15:40:00.000-07:002008-07-25T15:40:00.000-07:00Thanks for the review Forbes I fitted this hub to ...Thanks for the review Forbes<BR/> <BR/>I fitted this hub to my 29"er two years ago and I've been most impressed with it, on everything from road to singletrack to gravel backroad tours. <BR/><BR/>I used to obsess about numbers of gears and ratio increments, but after getting disillusioned with the sprocket "arms race" and getting of the "upgrade path" after 7-speed freewheels & cassettes, and spending more time fixed and free single-speeding, I found that the percentage increments between multiple gears became largely irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>I put this down to less concern about my cadence range, since the cadence has a linear correlation to speed, i.e. if I want to go faster, I must increase my cadence. <BR/>Also, once you're used to getting about on a single ratio, any extra ratios seem a luxury, so you're not so concerned about inter-ratio increments.<BR/><BR/>And the subsequent lack of noise from chain slap, etc. (as with all single chainline drives) is something I really appreciate and now take for granted.<BR/><BR/>"Derailleurs? Oh yeah, they're on my old bikes" ;-)davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05742847467454999121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-80675435703213270412008-07-25T11:51:00.000-07:002008-07-25T11:51:00.000-07:00I think you could use a chain tensioner, but I wou...I think you could use a chain tensioner, but I would avoid it if possible. If you can find the right chainring/cog combo to give you good chain tension, that would be a much better solution. And yes, the "Plummer" has long horizontal dropouts, so it has plenty of fore/aft adjustment available for chain tensioning.Forbes Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15206726185164505164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-32666313250746751322008-07-25T09:00:00.000-07:002008-07-25T09:00:00.000-07:00Forbes: Thanks a lot for the review! This looks li...Forbes: Thanks a lot for the review! This looks like the ticket for my son, who is big, strong, and hard on chains, derailleurs, and wheels. Question: It looks like the dropouts on your frame have enough fore-and-aft adjustment that you were able to get chain tension right. On a frame with more-vertical dropouts, would it be appropriate to use a chain tensioner such as the "Surly Singleator"? Or (per Sheldon Brown) I understand one can tweak chainwheel and cog sizes.Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071343825425427117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-43023949288012390332008-07-24T22:29:00.000-07:002008-07-24T22:29:00.000-07:00Mark Vande Kamp's article on the Jamis Commuter 2....Mark Vande Kamp's article on the Jamis Commuter 2.0 in BQ V5#3 states that some of the jumps are 13.8% and some are 22%, and that he often felt like he was "searching" for the right gear.phil varnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11167295487172421470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-75202604758330930432008-07-24T21:21:00.000-07:002008-07-24T21:21:00.000-07:00Hi sprocketscientist. Hm... If I made any change...Hi sprocketscientist. Hm... If I made any changes, it would be toward bigger jumps between gears 1, 2 and 3, and smaller jumps between gears 4, 5 and 6. But, overall, the gearing increments feel pretty good. - FBBForbes Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15206726185164505164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-837540928978896866.post-15827105307888846432008-07-24T21:15:00.000-07:002008-07-24T21:15:00.000-07:00Hey Forbes.Nice write up.I was wondering how the s...Hey Forbes.<BR/>Nice write up.<BR/><BR/>I was wondering how the spacing between gears feels? I know the ratios do not increase linearly. I kind of want an excuse to get a wheel with the nexus hub in there to throw on an old beater bike to turn it into a slightly more decent commuter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11777627222904903651noreply@blogger.com